Post Status Happiness Hour Session Nineteen

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In this episode of the Post Status Happiness Hour, host Michelle Frechette interviews Taco Verdonschot from Progress Planner, a tool designed to gamify WordPress website maintenance. They highlight the tool’s features, including its free and upcoming pro versions, and emphasize its role in making website upkeep engaging and fun. Taco announces a limited-time pre-launch sale, offering the planner at a discounted rate. They also discuss the importance of user feedback and community engagement, and preview upcoming content, including a discussion with Stephanie Hudson about Stellar Pay. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to try the Progress Planner.

Top Takeaways:

• Gamification for Website Management: Progress Planner uses a gamified approach to motivate users to maintain and improve their websites. By assigning points for tasks like updating content, writing new posts, or fixing technical SEO issues, the plugin makes website management engaging and enjoyable. This concept mirrors successful apps like Duolingo, which transform routine tasks into rewarding challenges.
• Practical Features with Growth Potential: The plugin focuses on high-impact tasks that enhance website performance, such as setting up foundational site elements or optimizing content. It also plans to introduce integrations with third-party tools like JIRA and onboarding wizards, offering users more flexibility. Future features may include personalized task recommendations, progress tracking for agencies managing multiple sites, and expanded customization options, making it even more versatile.
• Community Feedback and Accessibility:User feedback is central to the development of Progress Planner. The team actively invites suggestions and critiques to refine the tool and better address user needs. Additionally, its pricing model—offering a pre-launch discount and a free tier—makes it accessible to a wide audience. With its colorful bird-themed branding, the plugin presents an approachable and motivating experience for website owners.

Mentioned In The Show:

• Progress Planner
• Joost van Valk
• Marieke van de Rakt
• Fitbit
• Duolingo
• WordCamp Asia
• Marcus Burnette
• TheWPWorld
• wordpress.org
• Gravatar
• WPSpeakers.com
• Hero Press
• Stephanie Hudson
• StellarWP
• StellarPay

🐦 You can follow Post Status and our guests on Twitter:

• Taco Verdonschot (Founder, Progress Planner)
• Michelle Frechette (Director of Community Relations, Post Status)
• Olivia Bisset (Intern, Post Status)

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Transcript

Michelle Frechette 00:00:02  Welcome to the Post Status Happiness Hour, and it’s always happy when I get to talk to Taco. How are you, Taco?

Taco Verdonschot 00:00:09  Oh, good. Thanks for having me.

Michelle Frechette 00:00:11  Thank you for joining us. Especially rather late in your evening. So I do appreciate that you are willing to take some time because it is a live show. It’s hard to rearrange the time, but thank you for being here.

Taco Verdonschot 00:00:23  Yeah, well, thanks for for having me again. And how are you doing?

Michelle Frechette 00:00:28  I’m doing really well. Thank you. Exciting news today. 

Taco Verdonschot 00:00:31  Yeah, exactly. Yeah. A lot of stuff happened around Post Status, so.

Michelle Frechette 00:00:37  It did. I know I was, I was teasing you earlier that we have the same boss now because Joost and Marieke, are now the owners of Post Status and also Progress Planner that we’re going to talk about today. So, 

Taco Verdonschot: Yes. 

Michelle Frechette: Marcus Burnett, when I said that you were he’s wants to know how the future is because you’re six hours ahead of us.

Taco Verdonschot 00:00:58  Yeah, well, I can safely say it’s quite dark.

Michelle Frechette 00:01:03  I have a feeling you’re going to say that you rep the dad jokes in spades. Sometimes they are actually, something I’ve never would have thought of. And I think I commented earlier. It was, last week, that you were thinking of. You think of them in English when it’s not even your primary language so. 

Taco Verdonschot 00:01:20  True. Yeah.

Michelle Frechette 00:01:22  You really gotta go it on. So. Thank you.

Taco Verdonschot 00:01:26  It’s super helpful to to speak English all day with pretty much everyone in WordPress. So, that definitely does make a difference and helps a lot with learning a language.

Michelle Frechette 00:01:37  Oh for sure. Especially just the colloquialisms as opposed to things you learn on Duolingo or in a classroom, right?

Taco Verdonschot 00:01:43  Yeah. For sure. Yeah.

Michelle Frechette 00:01:44  How to tell a joke when I can finally tell a joke in Spanish, I’m gonna feel like I’ve arrived. So there. There’s a future goal.

Taco Verdonschot 00:01:51  Nice.

Michelle Frechette 00:01:53  So. But we’re here to talk about Progress Planner. Today, I was, honored to be part of a panel of discussing AI and Progress Planner and things like that.

Michelle Frechette 00:02:03  And in the past, last fall, I think it was in October, with Joost and Marieke. And now here we are, like a few months later, and this thing has really taken off as far as how well it works. And you guys are about to offer a pro version and some pretty cool stuff going on. So I’m going to let you talk about it because you know is like the back of your hand, whereas I’m still dabbling a little bit. So go ahead. Tell us about it.

Taco Verdonschot 00:02:27  Yeah. So, the idea behind Progress Planner is that a lot of people have to do maintenance tasks on their website, but, you know, they’re not usually the most fun stuff to do. So they’re they’re the tedious, boring task updating old posts, going through, old stuff, updating your sites, looking at where have things changed. So in order to help people do that because it is important to keep your site healthy. To do that maintenance work. We figured out that we need something that makes it fun.

Michelle Frechette: Yes. 

Taco Verdonschot 00:03:08  And looking at organizations like Fitbit and Duolingo, they’ve sort of mastered gamification. So we figured, how about gamifying keeping your site healthy? And that’s where Progress Planner comes in, because that’s exactly what we’re aiming for.

Michelle Frechette 00:03:32  Well, I am one day away from 1500 days on Duolingo. So if I can get myself to gamify myself in other areas of my life, like my websites, then I will be looking for those streaks and deeply disappointed if I let them down. So I think you’re in the right direction for sure.

Taco Verdonschot 00:03:50  Yeah. So the the interesting thing is that if you do regular maintenance on your site, let’s say even if it’s once a week, in ten weeks you’ll have your first batch in Progress Planner. Then 30 weeks, then a year. So it’s really you have to keep that streak going in order to, to keep it. However, we do realize that some people need vacation every now and then so you can skip a week, maybe two, but that’s about it.

Michelle Frechette 00:04:22  It’s like a streak freeze in Duolingo. 

Taco Verdonschot 00:04:25  Exactly. Yes. Yeah, exactly. So we’re a little bit more forgiving than full on that every week. But to help you do that, you get an email every Monday morning that says, hey, this is your goals for the week, and this is how you’re doing on your side. So it also helps giving you that nudge to go back into your sides, look at how you’re doing. And well, if it’s not at 100%, there’s work to do. 

Michelle Frechette: Absolutely. 

Taco Verdonschot: So, yeah, maybe it’s it’s nice to show what it looks like. A little bit. 

Michelle Frechette 00:05:02  Yeah.Let me bring it up on the screen here for us.

Taco Verdonschot 00:05:06  So you obviously know this screen, right:

Michelle Frecehette: I do.

Taco Verdonschot:  The back end of of WordPress. This is the dashboard where you log in. The part that’s new is the Progress Planner part. Well, this is just a dashboard widget. But if you go to the Progress Planner page itself, it will be in your face, nicely colored, because that also helps you find that positive energy in your WordPress website. And it will show you your activity score. And this is how much you’ve been doing on your website. Obviously, we’re now looking at the back end of my own site, and I am dedicated to keep that up. So, that’s why you see a score of 100. But you also see that there’s a monthly badge, and that requires performing ten specific tasks, or at least getting ten points, on that monthly progress. And that will allow you to collect all these monthly badges. And I mean, you’re you’re sensitive to gamification. Imagine if you miss one in the middle and you’ll never, ever be able to get it back. 

Michelle Frechette 00:06:22  That would be terrible.

Taco Verdonschot 00:06:23  Exactly. So this is where we challenge you to stay busy. Keep working on your site. Obviously, I’ve been doing quite a bit on my site already, so the only recommendation you see at the moment is create a short post. It’s also because my site isn’t very old. There’s not a lot of old content to work on because if you do have a site that exists for a longer period of time, it will also say, hey, you know you haven’t touched this page or this post in X months.

Taco Verdonschot 00:06:59  Maybe it’s time to review if everything is still okay. If you, maybe need to update some images in there or if the text is still accurate, it might be that there’s a year, annotation that you need to, to change. Links may have broken in the meantime. So all of that maintenance work, that’s where our recommendations come in. And, yeah, you’ll get a list and completing them will get you points. And again, ten points gives you a monthly batch. Now, that’s not the only thing. Yeah. 

Michelle Frechette 00:07:41  I see that you have the Padawan badge. I am a progress Padawan.

Taco Verdonschot 00:07:45  Yep. Yeah. So, that’s, the first one you get and then the next one is the maintenance and then the super side specialist. So this is the 10, 30 and 52 weeks streak. 

Michelle Frecehtte: Nice. 

Taco Verdonschot: As you can see, I haven’t written a whole lot. So in order to get my wonderful writer badge, I’ll need to write six more posts. So that’s my challenge. Well, probably for the next couple of months.

Taco Verdonschot 00:08:21  And then you can see I have 20 weeks to go on the the next batch for the streak. So it advertises that it helps you do that. It also shows how active you’ve been. Well, you can see that my site has the first post published in December. So yeah, it’s it’s kind of new. And it shows that way. Obviously we started in December, so I got the December one already and you can see how much there still is to get for me. So the interesting thing is, if you’re attending WordCamp Asia and you can show me in the Progress Planner booth that you got the badges for January and February, I will actually give you a physical version of the badge.

Michelle Frechette 00:09:16 Oh now I’ve got pressure to go back and build my site better.

Taco Verdonschot 00:09:20  There’s there’s eight days left in January, so it’s still possible to get that January badge. So maybe that’s a fun challenge to do that. Now the interesting thing is that this is the all the free plugin, where it really helps you with the recommendations.

Taco Verdonschot 00:09:43  And what I would like to show is what it looks like, in a Playground. This is just a brand new playground. Just opening it up. It has some demo content. So that’s why you see that there’s been activity. There’s a streak record, and you can see that there’s more recommendations here. And, in the list, and one of the easy ones to fix is set aside tagline. Well, in this case it will be, Post Status demo, and we save the change. And now the fun starts. Because if we now go back to the Progress Planner page, you will see that it gets striked out and you get confetti. So there’s celebrating your successes. In the, in the plugin. and I got my first point on the playground. So this is the way the Progress Planner plugin works. But as you said, there’s also a premium version or actually there will be as of tomorrow.

Michelle Frechette 00:11:00  Tomorrow yes. 

Taco Verdonschot 00:11:01  Yeah. So about yeah, let’s say 12 hours from now. There will be a pro version. Obviously you’ll get a sneak preview. You see it here first. So let me enter a license key. I think that should work. Oh, now you see my demo license key. That’s fine.

Michelle Frechette 00:11:26  I did the screenshot it, but I should have.

Taco Verdonschot 00:11:28  No, no one’s paying attention. We’re not live streaming this at all. We’ll be fine. Anyway, so nothing changes. Well, it looks like nothing changed. We have the the rest of the settings page. I’ll skip that for now, because the interesting part is, Well, we have some example posts here. And then we say this is an about page. I know it isn’t, but for the demo, we treat this as an about page. Now, what Progress Planner does is give you extra context on, hey, what does a good page look like? So let me, wait. Let me set this, to do them to them. Let’s do it differently. Let’s set it to a blog page that’s more fun.

Taco Verdonschot 00:12:31  There’s a watch video button, and. Oh, I shouldn’t be clicking there. I should be clicking here. So it will show a video where we help you understand, and I’ll mute it for now. We help you understand. What is the thing that you have to do on a blog page? What’s the thing you have to do on an about page? How do you create a good page? So all these videos are included right in your sidebar when you have the pro version of Progress Planner.

Michelle Frechette 00:13:07  That’s amazing.

Taco Verdonschot 00:13:08  Now, there’s also a part outside of the plugin. And that’s the challenges because there’s also tasks that are larger than just a simple item on a checklist. And one, the first challenge that we’re running and this is for our pro users is the Broken Links Challenge. And what we do is we have an introduction webinar that will be on the 30th of January. That’s for everyone, by the way. Anyone can, can join that webinar, to learn about why is it problematic to have broken links and what does it actually mean, a broken link? And how do you find them on your site? And then later on in that period where we also send you course material and other resources to help you fix those broken links.

Taco Verdonschot 00:14:04  We also do an webinar or workshop for our pro customers where they get personalized advice from our experts. So in this case, Joost van Valk will be sort of consulting in a webinar on how to you fix the broken link problems on your specific website. So that’s part of the Pro package as well. There’s not a whole lot I can show yet because this is obviously the first challenge that we’re doing. So coming soon.

Michelle Frechette 00:14:43  I like it, though. That’ll be fun. So is the is the Progress Planner by site or by user?

Taco Verdonschot 00:14:52  at this moment, it’s, by site.

Michelle Frechette 00:14:56  So if you do have a team of people working on it, you can hit those challenges even faster.

Taco Verdonschot 00:15:03  Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So, I’m, I’m not sure if I’m supposed to spoil our roadmap yet. But part of the pro version will definitely be that you get individual scores as well on the site. And my ultimate vision. And I hope we can build that soon, is that you get sort of a leaderboard within a site so that you have the most active writers, you have the most active website maintenance people.

Taco Verdonschot 00:15:37  So you get that little bit of incentive within your team as well to be active on the website.

Michelle Frechette 00:15:44  So you’re not even just gaming against yourself. You’re gaming against each other at that point.

Taco Verdonschot 00:15:48  I would love to see that. So.

Michelle Frechette: Yeah, same.

Taco Verdonschot: Yeah, hopefully we can build that soon.

Michelle Frechette 00:15:53  That’d be pretty cool for sure. This is really neat.

Taco Verdonschot 00:15:58  Yeah. So it’s and, it’s it’s a young plugin. We only started with the free version in August last year. Pro is coming tomorrow, so there’s a ton of features that we have on our roadmap and that we have in mind. But, yeah, this is where we’re at right now and helping you get the fancy colors and hopefully. Oh, see, here’s another score because I updated to, to pro. So already got two points on my site for this month.

Michelle Frechette 00:16:34  I can do it. I can do ten points in one month. Right? 

Taco Verdonschot 00:16:40  Yes. Easily. 

Michelle Frechette 00:16:40  Yes, I can do it.

Taco Verdonschot 00:16:41  In eight days you should be able to. Yeah, I’m sure.

Michelle Frechette 00:16:44  I’m gonna. Hold me to it. By next week. I will report back. 

Taco Verdonschot 00:16:49  That’s fantastic. Yeah.

Michelle Frechette 00:16:50  I’ll screenshot my dashboard.

Taco Verdonschot 00:16:53  I’d love to see that for everyone, you know? And typically, you see that with Duolingo as well. The closer you get to the end of the month, people start posting like, hey, I made it, I made it, I got the badge. So yeah, I hope that we get the same in WordPress where people are showing off their Progress Planner badges, every month.

Michelle Frechette 00:17:16  So a couple of things right off the top is it’s the design is beautiful. So like the characters that are there, the colors that are selected right down to like the, the shadows and things that are in use on the page. It’s all very beautifully designed and I love that.

Taco Verdonschot 00:17:34  Well thank you. I’ll make sure to forward that to Micah, who’s solely responsible for the whole design.

Michelle Frechette 00:17:42  Well, I love it. I love the birds. I love all of it.

Michelle Frechette 00:17:45  I love that the idea. Like, I don’t know if it’s a rooster. I’m going to say it’s a rooster. Probably. 

Taco Verdonschot: Yeah, 

Michelle Frechette: Because it’s kind of like that.Er,er,er (rooster crow sound) Like, come on, get up, get your stuff going. Right. It’s like the little alarm clock that reminds you that you have some work to do on your site, which is pretty, pretty cool, too. And, you know, like Duolingo, which has the owl, you know, it’s like the birds are just reminding you that there is some work to do, to improve yourself and move forward, which I think is great.

Taco Verdonschot 00:18:14  Yeah. That’s, and there are some other brands in our space that use an owl already. So that was taken. So, yeah. No, this is, it’s fun. And like you said, it’s the the alarm. That’s also why the there’s a little bell in the in the logo. Yeah.

Michelle Frechette 00:18:33  Very well designed. Very nice. Do you are you looking for feedback? So if people start to use it and they’re like, hey, it would be really great if this was a task or can you add your own tasks? 

Taco Verdonschot: Yes.

Michelle Frechette 00:18:44  To the recommendations.

Taco Verdonschot 00:18:46  Well, not yet. So the recommendations are, fully served from, the stuff that we built. In the future, we’ll hopefully have integrations with a lot of other plugins that need your attention somewhere.

Michelle Frechette 00:19:03  Like JIRA and those kinds of things?

Taco Verdonschot 00:19:06  Well, exactly. But I can also see that, for example, if you have a plugin that has an onboarding or an installation wizard, you want to make sure that people actually do it. You integrate with Progress Planner, and there’s a task that says, hey, do the onboarding wizard of plugin XYZ. So that’s also something that, yeah, I hope that we can, can get to soon. And of course, there’s the to-do list that we already have that you can do manually. so for example, in, the playground, you see a Progress Planner. Well, we’ve just done that so I can go. Yep. Exactly.

Michelle Frechette 00:19:51  Perfect. So Marcus has a question. He says, can you share? He covered your face, though. Sorry about that. can you share some of the other things that Progress Planner reminds you to do in the site? Update content, write new content, fix issues, etc.?

Taco Verdonschot 00:20:04  Yeah, at this moment it’s quite heavily focused on content. So creating well, you can see here create a long post on my own site. You can see it’s at create a short post. Updating old content. Reminding you to which posts are are old. So, for example, this one in the in the demo hasn’t been updated in six months. So that’s the, the heavy, the focus point at this moment is on the content side. And there’s indeed some, on the more technical side, like setting the tagline, setting the side icon that’s is there as well.

Michelle Frechette 00:20:51  Nice. And then like you said, the about page and some of those other things, probably contact page, things like that.

Taco Verdonschot 00:20:58  Exactly. Yeah. And then, this will well grow with every release, because we have a very long list of things that we want to recommend. One of the challenges that we’re currently having and that we’re working on is how do we prioritize what has the biggest impact on your website? Because there’s one thing more demotivating than not achieving your goals. And that’s having such a long list of tasks that you’ll never get through them. So we only want to show a few and we should be showing the the most important ones. So that’s an ongoing challenge. As we add more recommendations, how do they compare to each other and which one’s more important?

Michelle Frechette 00:21:52  Yeah, that makes sense. Maybe even more, maybe even more points for the more heavily weighted items or something like that.

Taco Verdonschot 00:21:59  Yeah. Well, you can already see that creating a long post gets three.

Michelle Frechette 00:22:03  Oh I see that. It does already have that. Yeah. Yeah.

Taco Verdonschot 00:22:05  Very good. For this the short post, which is only one.

Michelle Frechette 00:22:09  That makes sense. So Marcus with the questions, he’s got another good one. Does Progress Planner give any help on content topics for writing? Any plans for commerce sites? Do you have.

Taco Verdonschot 00:22:20  Well, plans are not the problem. Time is. So it will definitely, there will be a lot of new features coming, in the in the next couple of months. So that’s there’s a lot coming. But yeah, right now it’s focused on, on these recommendations and, Yeah. Grown that slowly.

Michelle Frechette 00:22:47  Nice. Fantastic. Any other questions? oOther in our audience today. Please put them in the comments and we will bring them up. I think this is great. I’m. I’m committing to going back and working on my site some more and actually starting to gamify. The problem is that I’m going to be like checking my status every day, like I do with Duolingo. So where am I now?

Taco Verdonschot 00:23:14  Well, and that’s the thing. As soon as that 100 drops, you’re like, okay, I have to do something. What do I do today? And and that’s the whole idea. Yeah. That’s,

Michelle Frechette 00:23:24  Keep it fresh. Keep it good, I love that. I think this would have a really nice integration, too.  If you have built a site for somebody else and you want to teach them that blogging and keeping your site fresh with content, especially for those that are going to be managing their own site. Right. So some of us do maintenance contracts and just like send them, I want to build everything, send me the changes and I’ll do it. But some people like to say, okay, you’ve built it. Thank you. Goodbye. I’ll call you if I have any problems. And this would be a great way to, especially with the pro version, to have those explainer videos to help them gamify their own site. Especially when blogging does so much for SEO and everything else. I think that’s great. It’s a great tool to use, educationally.

Taco Verdonschot 00:24:08  Yeah. So and I mean, I’m spoiling all the things now. I’ll see if I have a job tomorrow still, but.

Michelle Frechette 00:24:15  I’ll put in a word for you.

Taco Verdonschot 00:24:17  Yeah. So one of the things that I can totally see happening is that agencies get sort of an overview of all of their customer sites where they can easily see, hey, this site is dropping to a too low score.  We need to pay attention there. Or we need to nudge our customer that they need to continue writing content because it’s important, or that they need to keep updating their, their content. So that’s what I hope is that we can be super helpful to agencies as well.

Michelle Frechette 00:24:54  Does does the email that goes out. So you get the email on Monday morning. Is that just going to the admin that’s in settings? Can you have it go to more than one person. How do you set that up?

Taco Verdonschot 00:25:06  At the moment it’s going to the admins. 

Michelle Frechette: Perfect. 

Taco Verdonschot: And that will probably change in the future as well. As soon as we have the the profiles and you get the personal scores, etc., then it totally makes sense to have that personalized. Yeah. 

Michelle Frechette 00:25:27 I like that. I think it’s fantastic. I’m very excited about it. I’m hoping that it does really well. So the question everybody always wants to know when they see something new like that. So how much does it cost to do the pro version?

Taco Verdonschot 00:25:41  So that’s actually a slightly longer answer than just a number.

Because you have about 12 hours left to use our pre-launch sale. So usually it will sell for $149 a year per site. So for just $149, you get all of this, you get all the challenges, including the personalized workshops with industry leading experts. So that’s already a steal. However, because we want to reward those who, well, give us their vote of confidence early, we have our pre-launch sale running for another, well, let’s say 12 hours. If you buy now, you only pay $99 per site. And that’s not just the first time. That’s for life. So $99 a year instead of $149 every year.

Michelle Frechette 00:26:49  Nice, nice. I might have to take advantage of that after this call ends, then.

Taco Verdonschot 00:26:54  Yeah. There’s still time.

Michelle Frechette 00:26:56  There’s there’s about 12 hours left. Perfect.

Taco Verdonschot 00:27:00  Yeah. And I, I hate this because everyone who’s not watching us live, but is watching this tomorrow afternoon on YouTube. 

Michelle Frechette 00:27:07  They’re going to miss it.

Taco Verdonschot 00:27:08  They’re gonna go like, oh no, we missed it. But yeah that’s the thing with with pre-launch. It really ends tomorrow.

Michelle Frechette 00:27:17  It really does. And and there’s a reason for that. And it’s a good thing for sure. I mean, many of us have Black Friday sales and things like that, but you don’t want to wait until November to start gamifying your site.

Taco Verdonschot 00:27:32  No that would be a waste.

Michelle Frechette 00:27:32  So. So you know, if you’re listening to this and it’s too late, just pay the money. It’s going to be worth it, I swear.

Taco Verdonschot 00:27:41  Absolutely. Yeah.

Michelle Frechette 00:27:42  And I’m not even a spokesperson.

Taco Verdonschot 00:27:45  No, I didn’t pay you anything to say that. So that’s that’s good.

Michelle Frechette 00:27:51  We could have coffee in Asia. I would I’d be open to that.

Taco Verdonschot 00:27:54  Sounds like a plan. Yeah. No. So it’s definitely the I mean, this is early on. We just launched it. We’d love to get feedback. So if you’re using it, definitely reach out. Ravi@Progress Planner.com is the email address that we use. Let us know what you’d like to see. Let us know what you like best. Maybe there’s things that you absolutely hate. I’d also like to know because maybe we can resolve that. Or maybe you just have to put in the work. I don’t know. Yeah. Might be might be both, but let us know. Feedback is super important. and create some tasks on our to do list.

Michelle Frechette 00:28:39  I love that. Well can we give you points if you do them?

Taco Verdonschot 00:28:43  Oh definitely. Yes. You can tweak the points.

Michelle Frechette 00:28:47  I love it. For more information go to Progress Planner.Com if you’re interested in the pro version it’s that same address slash pro at the end. Although I’m sure you can get that. Get there from the home page as well. if you have any questions, you can always reach out to Taco, through any social media, I’m sure, as well. But go to the email Ravi at, which is r-a-v-i @ ProgressPlanner.com.

Taco Verdonschot 00:29:09  Yes. Absolutely.

Michelle Frechette 00:29:12  Anything else you want to share with our group today?

Taco Verdonschot 00:29:16  Well, a big thank you to Marcus. I mean, he was in the comments. He’s obviously listening live. He included progress planner in the WPworld newsletter today, so that was super kind of him. And I can only recommend people head over there as well, create an account and show that you’re part of the amazing WordPress community. Because the WPWorld website is fantastic.

Michelle Frechette 00:29:44  So along those lines, Marcus and I recorded just an hour and a half ago, a webinar that’s going to go out this week or next about how to get get credit to you or your company on WP.org, wordpress.org and how you can put your hours in. And then also because that only took about ten minutes, that’s not enough of a webinar. We also went in depth on the WPWorld and how things are connected between different, different sites, including Gravatar, wordpress.org and even WPSpeakers.com and Hero Press. So yeah, so that’s going to be coming out. So too. So if you’re interested in learning more about the WPWorld, about WordPress.org, all of that’s coming out soon as well.

Michelle Frechette 00:30:26  We got a couple more. Marcus says. Thanks, Taco. Michelle enjoyed. Enjoy hanging out in Asia together. We will. And that we’re too kind. Well, Marcus, you’re the kind one. Thank you for being here. Next week, before I forget, let me tell you what’s coming up. So next week, we’ll have a conversation with Stephanie Hudson of StellarWP about our new release over there, StellarPay. It’s a free payment gateway, to use with WooCommerce. So we’re going to talk about that next week with Stephanie. Taco, thanks so much for spending part of your evening here. I’m going to let you go get back to you. Probably go to bed. I don’t know if you’re a night owt like I am or not. 

Taco Verdonschot: Soon, soon. Yeah.

Michelle Frechette: Hopefully the kids are already tucked in and everything’s good because it’s gotta be pretty late for them.

Taco Verdonschot 00:31:08  They are. Yes.

Michelle Frechette 00:31:12  Very good. Well thanks so much for being here. I really appreciate you. We’ll see everybody next week with Stephanie and we’ll see you on Slack.

Michelle Frechette 00:31:17  Thanks so much. Take care.

Taco Verdonschot 00:31:19  Bye bye 

Michelle Frechette: Bye.