Post Status Happiness Hour Session Ten

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In this episode of the Post Status Happiness Hour, host Michelle Frechette interviews Katy Boykin, marketing manager at Kadence WP, discussing the upcoming Kadence Amplify event on October 25th. Katy shares her journey from using another page builder to Kadence WP, emphasizing its user-friendly features and new block releases. The episode highlights the importance of accessibility in web design, with Kadence WP’s commitment to creating an inclusive platform. The speakers also touch on community engagement, learning opportunities, and upcoming promotions. Overall, the episode underscores Kadence WP’s dedication to enhancing the WordPress experience and fostering a supportive community.

Top Takeaways:

Upcoming Kadence Features: Kadence is set to release five new blocks, including three for advanced header navigation, allowing users to create headers using blocks without relying on themes. This change is aimed at improving full-site editing, offering more customization options. An advanced search block and site icon block will also be part of this release, providing users with more flexibility without needing to touch code.
Accessibility Focus: Kadence is prioritizing accessibility in its design, driven by the personal experiences of lead developer Ben Ritner, who has worked closely with people using screen readers. While Kadence is not 100% accessible, they are continuously working towards improving this aspect.
Community and Events: Kadence will hold a free event called Kadence Amplify, with information available on their website and social media. It will include educational talks and demonstrations of the new features. Stellar WP and Kadence are also sponsors of WordPress Accessibility Day (October 9-10), promoting accessibility in the WordPress ecosystem.
Learning and Discounts: Attendees of both Kadence Amplify and WP Accessibility Day can benefit from learning opportunities and potentially access Kadence discounts through event swag.

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Michelle Frechette 00:00:01 Welcome to the Post Status Happiness Hour today. It’s my distinct pleasure. I always say to talk with friends of mine because everybody is always a friend of mine. I love everybody that WordPress, but Katy and I get to share a Slack channel because we both work for StellarWP as well. So Katy, it’s it is an honor. It’s a it’s a pleasure to have you on the show today. So welcome to the Post Status Happiness Hour.

Katy Boykin 00:00:23 Thank you. Happy to be here.

Michelle Frechette 00:00:25 Yeah I’m excited to talk about things that you and I have in common, because there’s an event coming up that we’re going to talk about, but we’re also going to talk about Kadence WP a little bit too. I know I never throw any other builders or themes or any of the things under the bus, so I’m not going to say who I used to use, but, a couple of years ago when I learned about Kadence because I started to work at Stellar WP, I stopped using an old page builder that I was using, and I started using Kadence WP.

Michelle Frechette 00:00:53 And I’ll tell you what, the fact that Kadence works with the block editor just makes life that much better. And so yeah, I’m excited because number one, I met you before you worked for Kadence, and now you are the marketing lead for Kadence. So, so yeah, so it’s pretty exciting to be able to talk about Kadence wP and also the Kadence Amplify event, which is coming up at the end of October, which is how you and I met. So yeah. So tell us a little bit about yourself. I know that you live on the West Coast because I have 8:00 meetings that you are not in attendance because you are still sleeping and you are messaging me beyond when I’ve already shut down my computer for the day. So. So tell us about yourself. Where do you live and what are you doing with Kadence?

Katy Boykin 00:01:38 Wonderful. Yes, I’m Katy Boykin, I’m the marketing manager at Kadence. I’ve also been a longtime user and customer, so I dabble in website design as well. Have another business that serves clients in that way.

Katy Boykin 00:01:51 And so I’ve been using Kadence for over three years before I ever came on board, to work for the company. It was honestly just a really great fit. I was a lot like you, and I was with another page builder and swore left, right and center that I would not ever go to a block based system. And now that I have totally converted, prior to ever, like I converted for client projects before I ever started working at Kadence, and now it’s hard to go back to the other way. I just love working in the whole native editor altogether. So yeah, but I am in Phoenix, Arizona right now. We actually are in the process of selling our house though, so we’ll be moving back to Texas in November.

Michelle Frechette: Okay.

Katy Boykin: That’s where I was born and raised. So in the Dallas area, if anyone’s wondering, whereabout in Texas because Texas is massive.

Michelle Frechette: Yes it is.

Katy Boykin: But when you live so far away now, you just call everything by the state name instead.

Michelle Frechette 00:02:47 It’s true, it’s true. Although if you tell people in New York, they automatically assume New York City, and that’s 360 miles away from where I live. So it’s not exactly close. But yes, you’re right. definitely. That’s the way that it is, for sure. So you and I met because I was MCing Kadence Amplify about a year ago, and you were in the track that I was MCing for, and that’s how you and I got connected. I think we connected on, LinkedIn almost immediately afterwards, and I. I will admit, I don’t remember exactly everything that was in your talk, because it’s been a little while, but.

Katy Boykin: That’s okay, me either.

Michelle Frechette: Exactly right. but I remember thinking, wow, this this woman really understands Kadence. She knows what she’s talking about. The audience had lots of great questions for you, and it was really good. So when you applied and became the marketing lead for the Kadence WP product at StellarWP, I was like, well, that’s a natural fit. That makes perfect sense.

Katy Boykin 00:03:50 Yeah, it has been a really, really great fit and I am really excited about Kadence Amplify coming up. It’s actually booked for October 25th, so if you guys are interested in tuning in and learning from other WordPress and business experts, we also have talks on other things related to growing an online business, not just websites like SEO tips and and a bunch of other things. You guys can go check out the Amplify page if you would like to see the full speaker lineup and all of the talks that are going to be there, it’s a free event. So yeah, I actually got started by sharing last year at last October’s event, and this year I get to MC and maybe share, depending on, slots available. But we’ll see. And I’m really excited about that coming up. One thing I really love about the Amplify event is just how the whole community comes together, because most of the people are Kadence users, but they’re building their businesses in really cool ways outside of the immediate tool as well.

Katy Boykin 00:04:52 So, it’s it’s really great to learn from others in the community.

Michelle Frechette 00:04:57 Yeah, I completely agree. I put, I put the link on the screen. If you’re listening to this and not watching, I’ll just tell you it’s kadencewp.com/wordpress-solutions/kadence-amplify. And we’ll make sure those are in the show notes as well. But it is on the screen. And if you go to Kadence WP or you follow on any of the social channels, you’ll definitely see it there as well. And if you are in in the chat right now, go ahead and list any questions that you might have. We’re always happy to answer them. Like I have a banner for everything.

Katy Boykin 00:05:33 I love it.

Michelle Frechette 00:05:35 Okay, maybe not everything, but a lot of things. I got a banner for a lot of things. Yeah. So I was, fortunate to speak at the very first Kadence Amplify about, so you want to build a podcast and, and talking about how to get started with podcasting.

Michelle Frechette 00:05:52 I got a little experience now over the years, and that was so that was fun. And then unfortunately, last fall, Hannah, who was supposed to be the MC of my track, was violently ill that night and I got an emergency message in the morning from Kathy’s aunt, who used to be in your position, saying, by any chance, are you free today? And it happened to be the only day in about two weeks where I had nothing on my calendar. So I jumped in to MC, which is how I ended up at both Kadence events, which was super cool. And you’ve invited me to be an MC for one of the tracks coming up that day too, so I’m looking forward to seeing who I get to listen to and chat with that day. It’s always exciting to get to talk to new users, but it’s also exciting to get to hear the ways that people are using the tools that Kadence provides. I’ve used other, themes in the past that, you know, had pretty layouts and all kinds of like, things like that, but Kadence really bring some power behind it.

Michelle Frechette 00:06:52 I was showing you and our teammates, I think last month how I use the Kadence Elements to help create WP Speakers, which is a project that now has, I think, over 500 speakers in it. For people who are interested in finding people who speak about WordPress. Right? And that’s all made possible because the Kadence and Kadence was so easy to use. Now, granted, if you’ve never used WordPress before, there’s a learning curve. I’m not going to say there’s not. But if you are familiar with WordPress at all, Kadence is so easy to use. I started building on Monday night. I soft launched on Wednesday. By the end of the day, I had like 70 people signed up. By the end of the week, there are over 100 speakers signed up to be in that database. And I was like, hold on folks, I’m not even quite done building it yet, right? I added more features. And had to go back and go if you have more information, you can still add that to your profile.

Michelle Frechette 00:07:43 But yeah, it’s super, super easy to use.

Katy Boykin 00:07:46 Yeah, I like how flexible it is as well. Like if there’s any thing you want to create, there’s usually a way to access that, especially with the element hook feature. I’ve actually done a few YouTube video trainings on how to use the Kadence element hook feature, so definitely check out our YouTube channel as well. I think I surprised you with that. You may not have a banner for that one.

Michelle Frechette 00:08:06 I don’t have a banner for that.

Katy Boykin 00:08:09 But yeah. Check out our The Kadence WP YouTube channel because we’ve got a lot of great tips and tools and tricks to share with you, regarding how to create that flexible website.

Michelle Frechette 00:08:20 Yeah. Which I think is super, super awesome. I do have, see, because you didn’t think I was going to have all this. I actually have the share the screen for Kadence Amplify. So let’s talk a little bit about what’s going to happen on that day. And then we’ll circle back to all the really cool things that are happening with Kadence, because I know that that we’ll be talking about some of them on October 25th, but some of them are coming even before then, which is super cool.

Michelle Frechette 00:08:45 I don’t know why I talk with my hands so much on screen. It’s a little crazy. But anyway, thanks for hanging in with me so you can register right on on the page. So just go to the page. You can register there. Super easy to do. What to expect. We have 15 expert speakers with live Q&A are these recorded sessions or are they live sessions Katy?

Katy Boykin 00:09:04 These are live sessions and we have two sessions every single hour. So there’s two tracks you can tune into. If if one topic is not super interesting to you, you have another alternate option so that you can keep that learning going all day long and there are going to be replays as well. So if you find a slot that has two speakers and you want to go to both of them, pick one to interact with the speaker live so you can ask questions, but ultimately you can go back and watch the replay at any time.

Michelle Frechette 00:09:31 You don’t have to clone yourself between now and then to do two at the same.

Katy Boykin 00:09:34 That’s right.

Michelle Frechette 00:09:35 Let’s talk about.

Katy Boykin 00:09:36 Although you could.

Michelle Frechette 00:09:37 I mean, do you know how much more work I could get done if I could clone myself?

Katy Boykin: I know.

Michelle Frechette: Let’s talk a little bit about the speakers you have lined up. So can you give us a rundown on who there is?

Katy Boykin 00:09:47 Yes. Jamie Marsland from Poodle Press is going to be in our first slot. It might be a little early for me, but I’m just going to get myself a cup of coffee and enjoy it. But it is going to be a really great session. We call it a speaking event session. A great session about how he grew his YouTube channel to over 100,000 subscribers. See, I told you, we’re not just talking about websites. We’ve got business strategy all in here, too. Sherif as well is going to be teaching you how to use the Kadence ecosystem to generate leads from any website. Melissa Love. If you’ll scroll down a little bit, she is going to teach you how to accelerate your client builds with semi-custom templates using Kadence.

Katy Boykin 00:10:29 She is the owner of Style Cloud. I don’t know if you guys have seen her work. It is incredible. And so this is going to be a nice little inside behind the scenes sneak peek about how she kind of runs her business and how you could create a business the same way. Hector as well, is sharing the secrets to make web maintenance your best business, which, if you are a website agency owner and you need to, hone your skills on the website maintenance stuff, this is going to be a great talk to attend. And moving on down, we’ve got some SEO tips on to English or not to English. So if you are wondering, should you optimize for keywords that are English only, this is going to be the talk for you. We also have Jeffrey who’s going to be talking about Kadence web performance. So if you care about core web vitals or improving site speed optimization, definitely check that session out.

Michelle Frechette 00:11:23 And you should watch and you should wonder about those. You should we should worry about those things for sure.

Michelle Frechette 00:11:27 Although Kadence makes it easy, I will say for sure. But yes, we should always seek to improve our performance.

Katy Boykin 00:11:33 Yes. And then, WP Barista Cathy is going to talk about creating two different product styles in one shop. So that will be really interesting to go to. So if you are an e-commerce shop owner and you want to design two different product styles, this is going to be a really great session to attend. the the amazing Jake Pfohl is also going to be talking about how to build a profitable digital store using SureCart and Kadence, which is, you know, sure is a big competitor for WooCommerce now. It’s an up and coming e-commerce platform. So that’ll be a really great talk. And then Nathan Ingram is going to be talking about systems and success. Timothy Wood going to talk about how to use Kadence WP and Gravity Forms to build apps. Really interesting conversation there. If you ever want to figure out how to build apps. And Jessica is going to talk about how to format dynamic blog posts with Kadence blocks and Christian Taylor, if you are following him on YouTube, his name is Craylor, which I think is really, creative.

Katy Boykin 00:12:31 And he’s going to talk about using Kadence to power up the blocks. Editor. And then we have just a few more to go. I know this is a lot, but so many great sessions in store. Paul is going to share how to set up your websites digital tracking like a pro. So if you want to figure out Google Tag Manager, Google Analytics, UTM links, pixels. That’s the that’s the session to attend. And our very own Kathy Zant is going to be talking of course, about, About the weakest link in WordPress security. She’s our security guru, so we always love having her back on the Kadence team, for a session on that. And then at the very end, we are going to have the final session be from Kadence. Kadence co-founder, main founder. Sorry, I’m flubbing that Ben Ritner, the great Ben Ritner, is going to be doing a special presentation, to be determined on what we’re going to be disclosing, discussing, sharing. That’s kind of we’re going to leave that a little bit of a surprise element, but you will not want to miss it.

Katy Boykin 00:13:27 We’re going to talk about what’s happening in Kadence, and he’ll have lots to share with you as well. So that’s what you can expect. Again, it’s a free event to register for and sign up. So sign up. you can just click the link at either the top or the bottom of the page. When you’re ready to get started and just add your email address and we will send you invites and updates and notices so you know exactly when to attend.

Michelle Frechette 00:13:49 Fantastic. Yeah, I think one of the nicest things is when, when an online event especially reminds you like, hey, this is happening, don’t forget. But also go ahead and add it to your schedule so you don’t miss it. If you add it on your calendar, then you’ll be sure to join it. and like you said, we do package them up so it’ll be one giant large stream all day long. Two of them, actually, when we did the last one last October, I not only MCed, but I said, oh, I’ll package those all up. It took me three days to chop them up into individual talks, put the bumpers on them, upload them to the Kadence YouTube channel. But it was worth it because all of that was such good information. So Kadence one, Amplify One, AmplifyTwo. Those are all on the Kadence YouTube channel already. And these will be, shortly thereafter too. I did put the link in the chat. If people are interested in looking for it, I’ll bring it up on the screen again. But you did start to tease out a few things that are coming with some Kadence stuff. So what can you tell us? Give us some insight or information on what’s going on for Kadence.

Katy Boykin 00:15:00 Okay. So this is like super soon. Hopefully in the next handful of weeks we’ll be coming out. We’re finishing up the beta testing phase for five new blocks. So three of the blocks are all for our advanced header navigation blocks. So there’s three blocks that make up this whole little system so that we can now create headers using blocks instead of having to rely on a theme.

Katy Boykin 00:15:27 So this is going to be groundbreaking especially for those who are wanting to utilize the full site editing themes. This is going to allow you to create much more beautiful and functional headers than what you can do right now on the full site editing themes, which we all know is really clunky at this point with the regular core. So this is a really great step in the full site editing direction, which I don’t want to go into too much here about. But, if you tune in whenever we officially launch these blocks. We will have a live stream and I’m sure Ben Ritner, will share all of his thoughts and opinions about the future of full site editing and all of that good stuff, but this is a great step in the right direction for that, and that is coming out hopefully in the next few weeks, and it’s going to be amazing once we officially launch. So if you’re not on our email list, be sure to be on the email list so you know when those those features are live.

Katy Boykin 00:16:18 The other two, blocks as well that are coming in this whole little launch package are we’re going to do an advanced search block is going to be available right now. The only way that you can really customize the, Gutenberg search block is through CSS. And we want to give our users the ability to not have to touch code when they’re designing their website. So that’s coming as well whenever we have our big launch. And then we’ve also got a site icon that again, just really helps support what we’re doing with the advanced header blocks. So that’s what is like on deck. It feels like we have five to release all at once, but they’re all they’re all going to be, I think, really groundbreaking in how we utilize headers on our website. So I’m excited.

Michelle Frechette 00:17:00 Yeah, it sounds like it’s really gonna make Kadence even more user friendly and make it a little bit better for the UX for people who are actually visiting the site as well, which would be nice.

Katy Boykin 00:17:11 Yeah. And the Kadence theme builder that’s built into the theme is already really flexible compared to a lot of other classic themes out there, but users kept wanting to be able to have more control.

Katy Boykin 00:17:23 And so we we wanted to develop something. There are over almost 30,000 lines of code in just the advanced header blocks that we are about to release. So this was not a light project. it’s going to be really epic. We’ve had a lot of incredible feedback from users too during our beta testing phase. People are impressed with how we’ve executed it, and we have an incredibly talented development team, and I’m excited to see to get this into the hands of everyone and, be able to utilize it. And by the way, this is free and also pro upgrades as well. So even free users are going to be able to build a basic header using the free version of Kadence blocks. And then of course, there’s going to be opportunities if you want to do some more fancy things with it to upgrade to the pro version. So it’s going to be great.

Michelle Frechette 00:18:11 That is exciting. I love the way we innovate with things. And I have to say, though, 30,000 lines of code is why I’m in marketing and not development.

Katy Boykin 00:18:21 Same. Same. I don’t think I can look at that amount of code for that long.

Michelle Frechette 00:18:28 No, for sure.

Katy Boykin 00:18:30 But I sure am thankful that they build it so that I can utilize it on client projects and also release my own websites and other things.

Michelle Frechette 00:18:38 I also don’t know how to build a car, but I can drive one. So like this. It’s a good analogy, right?

Katy Boykin 00:18:44 Facts. That’s facts.

Michelle Frechette 00:18:46 For sure. Now, a couple weeks ago, I had some of my coworkers from another project on here talking about, WordPress Accessibility Day, which is coming up October 9th and 10th, which is also a free event. So go to both of them because they’re both going to be phenomenal. But one of the reasons I bring that up is that not too long ago, on the WordPress Accessibility Meetup, Amber Hynes and her team did a little contest of sorts. Or an analogy and analogy… analysis.

Katy Boykin 00:19:18 Analysis. Yep.

Michelle Frechette 00:19:19 Analysis of some different themes and page builders. Now, before we get into whether or not Kadence is a theme or a page builder or blocks, because I have opinions on that and I know you do too.

Michelle Frechette 00:19:31 Let’s first talk about the fact that it came out the winner as far as accessibility goes. Now, that’s not to say it’s 100%. I don’t know anything that’s 100% accessible. But it came out on top. And it also gave us some ideas of ways that we can improve accessibility. But can you talk a little bit about how we do have a focus on accessibility with Kadence?

Katy Boykin 00:19:52 Yeah. Well, one of the things I love to share is that I know Ben has personal relationships with people in his life that use screen readers, and so he has had to go over to their house and and teach them how to use certain aspects of websites. And that was really kind of the pain point that he experienced in real life and has been like the driving force behind his desire to want to create and really accessible website building platform. And so everything that we do, we we consider accessibility before launching. In fact, we were ready to go to beta. And then a few days later for this new nav block that we’re about to release and we’re like, okay, what about accessibility? Like everybody paused.

Katy Boykin 00:20:36 So we held it for a little while so that we could really focus on that accessibility and make sure that it’s hitting those metrics. So it’s extremely important just based on Ben’s own personal experience with that. And that’s something that’s really deeply important to us as a whole company at Stellar WP, which I really admire. So the fact that we came out on top was a win. But like you said, we weren’t 100%. So we still have a lot of room for improvement and growth, and we are constantly striving towards becoming the most accessible version of Kadence that we can. So yeah.

Michelle Frechette 00:21:09 I love the different I’ve learned. I’ve been learning so much about accessibility over the last few years, and one of the things I wasn’t aware of until this year is that if you are, if you’re on a website and you start to click the tab, it will tab through the different like links and buttons and things. And it should have a like a rectangular box around it to show you where that tab is. And when that was feature was added to WordPress, people started complaining that it was a bug.

Michelle Frechette 00:21:40 They thought it was a bug, that this, that this, the square or a rectangle was appearing around these things. So for WordPress Accessibility Day this year, our t-shirts say focus. It’s a feature, not a bug, because it’s called the focus feature, which I think is pretty awesome. But I love that accessibility is also a focus of of what we’re doing with Kadence WP and that people can. Again, you can’t just rely on any one tool, whether it’s a theme, a whether it’s a plugin or anything, to do all of the accessibility work for you. You still have to add alt, alt text for your images. You still have to make sure that any link that you put is described correctly. You still have to make sure that the language that you’re using is inclusive. So a lot of responsibility still falls on the site builder and, and the, the content creators for those sites. But we build in those features to make those things a little bit easier, which I think is awesome.

Katy Boykin 00:22:36 Yeah, absolutely. And also colors. Don’t forget about that. You gotta have that contrast. Those colors.

Michelle Frechette 00:22:42 Absolutely contrast. And I like to tell the story. So the theme that I used to use prior to Kadence, at one point in time, and I don’t know if they changed because I just started automatically changing things when I would start to implement a new site, had a very grey font and a very small size as their default. And when I was in my 30s that was not an issue.

Katy Boykin 00:23:07 Right?

Michelle Frechette 00:23:08 I am going to be 56 in a few weeks and I can no longer even with glasses. That’s, that’s that’s problematic for me. And it just reminds you that you don’t have to be born with disabilities or experience a life altering, you know, accident or things like that. As we age, accessibility becomes important too. We lose, we lose our ability to, you know, to climb steps as easily. We lose our ability to see things or hear things as easily. So all of us benefit from accessibility features in life, but especially on the web.

Katy Boykin 00:23:43 Yeah, absolutely. I’m signed up for Accessibility Day as well, and I’m excited to learn. You know, I feel like I know I know a lot of best practices, but there’s I’m sure still so much more that I have to learn and grow. And I. I’m excited to be a part of that too.

Michelle Frechette 00:23:56 So I’m on. I’m on the team. I’m on the organizing team. And I’m still learning every single day from the people in that team. And I will be watching as I can’t watch 24 hours. That’s why we’re also recording that event, right? Because you can’t be everywhere all the time and you have to sleep sometimes. but I am definitely looking forward to some of those talks. I’m definitely looking forward to some of the talks at the Kadence Amplify event. I feel very fortunate that I get to be an MC for part of it, so that I can interact with people as well. I’m really looking forward to I say really all the time. I’m really looking forward to that though.

Michelle Frechette 00:24:28 So it’s going to be a it’s going to be a fun time. so how long have you been with us now at Stellar WP?

Katy Boykin 00:24:36 I April 15th tax day. Okay. it’s when I start. It’s actually my son’s birthday as well, so I say I won’t forget.

Michelle Frechtte: You can’t forget that day.

Katy Boykin: Yeah. So April 15th is when I officially started at Kadence, and it feels like I’ve been there for a year or longer. I mean, yeah, I mean, I haven’t been working with the team necessarily, but I have been using the products for a number of years. So it’s, it’s really been a naturally great fit. I’m excited to be a part of the team.

Michelle Frechette 00:25:04 That’s great, and we love having you here for sure. Is there anything else you’d like to share about what’s happening with Kadence, about Kadence Amplify, about life in general, about WordPress? I don’t know any of it. Before we sign off for today?

Katy Boykin 00:25:19 I think that’s. That pretty much covers it. I mean, we’ve got we’ve been focusing most of our efforts on this, on this upcoming block release.

Katy Boykin 00:25:27 So that’s going to be our next big push. And of course, Black Friday is around the corner and knocking. So that’s going to be our next big sale. So if you’re wondering when the next time you can you can score on on discounts on Kadence Black Fridays coming around the corner. But that’s pretty much all that we got going on is launching and it’d be sales season again.

Michelle Frechette 00:25:46 So I will tip our hand a little bit if you if people are also registered for WP Accessibility Day because Stellar is a sponsor, we are giving away a discount on Kadence as part of the swag bag, so I won’t tell you anything more about it than that. You’ve got to go register for both events. But if you register for our accessibility day, you will get a little bit of an advance on perhaps that Black Friday stuff going on.

Katy Boykin 00:26:14 I feel like I feel like that’s a life hack, like you just got to show up and be engaged in certain events, and there may or may not be surprises waiting for you around the corner.

Michelle Frechette 00:26:22 You never know. Some some cool things could be happening for sure. I was at WordCamp US last week and it was an amazing event, and I started to unpack my suitcase and realized that I have like 20 more pins to add to my bulletin board of WordPress pins, so I wouldn’t have those if I didn’t attend events. Right? So you don’t know until you show up. You don’t know until you show. I just made that up.

Katy Boykin 00:26:47 It rhymes.

Michelle Frechette 00:26:48 It does. I’m good at that kind of stuff.

Michelle Frechette 00:26:51 Well, I appreciate you being here. Next week we will have Robert Abela from Melapress. They’ve done some surveying and we’re going to talk a little bit through that survey that they put out and have a nice conversation with Robert about that. Looking forward to that. So we hope everybody will join us again next week. Again, if you’re interested in the Kadence Amplify event, go to Kadence wp.com/wordpress-solutions/Kadence-amplify. Follow them on. Follow us. It’s so weird when I have like I’m I’m here on both sides of the of the screen because I work at Kadence.

Michelle Frechette 00:27:24 I work at Stellar too. but if you follow Kadence WP on socials, all of the information will be there as well. Or go to Kadence wp.com and I’m sure you can find the information there or DM me. I’ll send it to you anytime for sure. If you have questions about any of this, Kayi, how can people find you or reach out to get more information?

Katy Boykin 00:27:46 Yeah. KadenceWP.com is the the way to get all of the information you can always email me to if you guys have any questions. It’s [email protected] if you ever want to reach out and touch base. Otherwise we also have a growing Facebook group by the way, which just hit 15,000 members. So Facebook is another great place to get involved with other WordPress community members who are all building with Kadence. So that’s probably one of my favorite places to hang out and where I’m kind of more social in that regard.

Michelle Frechette 00:28:17 Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for spending some time with me today. I’ll see you back over on our other Slack in my other hand, we hope.

Michelle Frechette 00:28:25 Absolutely. So we’ll see everybody at Kadence Amplify event, and hopefully you’ll be following along to see all the new and crazy things. Crazy? New and exciting. Anyway, all the things that are happening.

Katy Boykin 00:28:35 Crazy and exciting.

Michelle Frechette 00:28:37 It’s all crazy. It’s all crazy and exciting. But we’ll see everybody there. And next week join us again to talk with Robert Abela. We’ll see everybody at the next WP Post Status. Where am I? Post Status Happiness Hour we’ll see you then.